Start respecting Bhagat Ravidas jis bani, start to understand that Dera Ballan and similar authorities have no influence or involvement in us ravidassia sikhs, plz add Garwa Nimal Kala Alaria as chamar surname, The DAS is missing from the list, pls. Mobile Number 91 + 9407521386 . I am a Sahota myself and I have sidhu and sandhu friends who ARE CHAMAR and no other caste! Even Europe had a caste system where Priests, Kings and Knights were at the top and manual workers were at the bottom. If I may state some unpalatable facts to the world respecially the Indian diaspora. I have made many comments on this subject in this website; he is well advised to read them particularly why caste names are shared across caste under anonymous and the Illuminated. as after food , articals of leather n clothing r most essential need of life whether india or any other county. Your name has been added. So its all wait and watch and at the same time contributing towards the upliftment of our people. Thank you, my friend for telling the truth, that what blinded us, as Sikh we cant even recognized, our own brothers ( 5 piare consisted different cast ). I am merely pointing out the reasons why. Ithas likhegen ham aisa fir na doraha jayega, Jo hamse aankh milayega jinda dafnaya jayega. Even after everything was done not much changed. Brahminism/Manuism will be a thing of past. Baba from your Dera Ballan followed and respected the GGSJ, regardless of what has happened, it was a low act to break away, wasnt the fault of GGSJ. Thank bhaiya bahut sahi likha app ni jai bheem, Sale savidhan like Raha that to tumhare baap,dada,ya chacha nhi the..wo hamre hi porwaz theJo aaj uchhal Raha h, App bilkul sahi kah rahe hein. Of three officers I mentioned above I have been to their homes and not noticed any thing unusual commensrate to their earnings. you can also add Sethi although its so called upper caste khatri(hindu +Sikh surname) . Thats my uncles last name but hes a Jatt. Bhisi 3.. Shalhru. and its true people of other cast dont react in the same way as we do. When Guru Nanak discovered the truth by accepting the sacha sauda gift(the Truth) as a blessing from the Bhagats, he wanted to proclaim this to the world.The brahmins had been telling the Indians of caste system as the truth created by God and even created fictional figures such as Krishna and Ram and others, to legitimise this lie.This lie was challenged many times before but more fiercely when Guru Nanak came along. Thanks jai guru ravidass ji maharaj, rall,jhamat,jakhu,ladhar and chawla,loi,kalsi also in chamar community, i believe no one beats jats and they r the best, lol In fact there are quite a few surnames there that arent!! What is there in your surname , surname is not a bloodline it is a tribal name. Jatt was consider a lower sudra class with the passage of time they manage to rule once in nearby area of Delhi. My father name is :RAM DASS hey buddy i think you got some wrong surname in this community.Even I belong this community but still i searched a lot about some jat names like sandhu,sidhu,chawla,chopra,bhatti,saraoand johal whosoever you are but you are taking them wrong as they belong to jatt sikh. THINK u r breaking the law of ALMIGHTY,FORMLESS GOD(WAHEGURU) After all we do not choose which caste we were born into. Dont hate on us Jatts just remember that the more you hate on us, the more we will get our children to bully yours! We having a glourious History of our Great ancestors. It can be a more economical option those of you that cannot have the funds for an LED-lit LCD HD TV. Maharaja ranjit singh was a sandhu. What has happened in the past or what is still happening is due to ignorance and lack of humanity and a failure of succesive Indian governments lacking the political will to eradicate caste . The 2011 Census of India for Uttar Pradesh combined the Chamar, Dhusia, Jhusia, Jatava Scheduled Caste communities and returned a population of 22,496,047. I also belong to a chamar caste n i also proud of on my caste. SC are not Ati Shudra.. there is no such caste in India. Yeah Exactly Bro And Now We have changed the way as wellNow If someone ask me who are you I Say CHAMAR hu bhai .Its makes me feel proud and also make their mouth shutSo This is the best way to end the Castism if you cant remove it so just make your caste as stronger that other will remove it selfly, punia in haryana belog to chamar caste as p.l.punia (i.a.s. When 5 fingers ( Punjabi) put together, it become a powerful punch. We only need look at vienna to realise the extents they are willing to go. I mean how can we obliterate a system 10s of thousands of years old. Mind you singer like Mika and Kailash Kher are also chamars and there are lots of Jatt girls and boys who are die-hard Fans of them. Manister of state Ashu ji. What a joke. Children of forward castes get special privileges in education and nepotism is widespread. is angurala from punjab belongs to chamar or schedule caste. NORTH surnames is also comes in this community mainly in Malwa belt (Ludhiana Lalton kalan village ), He is a typical Jatt sikh, who does not understand that being a jatt Sikh is a contradiction in terms. But I hate this division of humanity. Karra has been added to the list. I am very proud on my caste. sure name hatane se kuch nhi hoga. Nobody likes oppression and it should not be tolerated. Surely he will be punished by law for posting derogatory comments for SC/ST. Summan ORDERS OF VARIOUS COURTS . You stupid fuck sidhus are landlords Bhutti are kshatriyas. Than why u chamars using high caste surnames? (barara) l belongs to a chamar family and i am proud for it. bat karta h birth control ki to ye bata du pandit to 10 se kam paida hi nahi karte h phir sabhi se beekh mangwate h . And no, Chamars did not originally have Jatt surnames. Hi there!! Marriage is always between a man and a woman but certainly not between castes.Foolish people search for spouses within a caste region or religion. Mehra (LogOut/ Im a Jatt and its the 1st time I read something that said it how it is Chamar/ jatav also use verma,kadam,kardam,nim,kashyap..etc. People who say they are proud of being called Chamar are real Chamar because that stigma (label) will always be part of their psyche. May I state that Sandhu, Sidhu, Sahota and Kalsi ARE Chamar surnames as well as Jatt/Tarkhan Surnames. Akhil Bharatiya Jatav Mahasabha was founded in 1917 under the leadership of Manik Chand Jatav and Swami Achootanand. Thotha chana baje ghana,brahmin being emty wants high status by false caste qalification. Please add goraya and Grover in chamar surnames found in Bhiwani, Yr sbse bade kameene insaan to vahi image aur neech insaan vahi hote h jo dusri caste walo ko neecha khte h..yr hum agr unchi jaati main paida hue h it dsnt mean ki hum auron ko neechi jaati bolen..hum b to yr neechi jaat me paida ho skte the n tb koi hume aise bolta ki tumhari neechi jaat to hume kaisa lagta..n sbse bdi glti to hume apne ancestors ki maan ni chahiye ki unhone ye caste systm bnayavaise to mr hi gaye h vo sb ni mare hote to mai hi maar deti..n i rqst all those people who call others as neechi jaat n use abusive language 4 thm.ki vo log aisa na kare. Let me tell you something today belonging to a caste is totally irrelevant because these castes were made to organize the society and run the economy by sticking people to a certain profession. He is not illiterate but ignorant and blind because when he gets his proper education and knowledge and accepts the truth only then will he be able to see the truth, which he refuses to accept. It is very painful to see that you have write yourself very neech kind of chamar. 15-year-old demand This is also the fulfilment of a 15-year-old demand by these 17 caste groups. It may have been based on their . digital photographic camera, MP3 person and all other USB Lakhotra gym and fitness centre jallandhar i m not a chamar. This may seem usual to us today.But if we go 550 years back in Indian history it was unthinkable for people from low caste to have such an opportunity when they had separate wells in villages for low caste people. Chamars were not castist or racist they were forced to become castist and racist by Sikhs. I hope my words have not hurt anyone. I would love to see more chamar songs in the mainstream media because all you see is jatt this and jatt that. Yrr please reply jrur krii mainu ahaa dsss virk sandhu kdo to sc hoo geee ?????? Jatav. Desiangel you are an uneducated and stupid person. There is no such things as caste, we are all human beings. Guru Gobind Singh even banned to add any caste after last name as Singh. your are a racist by your own comments .everybody is equal in the sight of God and men . No matter what, a jatt is a jatt. They have been with us since time immemorial. Jatts are also a sudra caste according to Hindu Script Manusmirti, ..yr guys sidi jeyi gl asikhan ch koi caste ni hundi.bndea ne hi bna shdi a e caste.jo caste te ykeen krda hai o mere njjra ch sikh nai .so caste de chkra ch na pyowe youngsters are educated yrfr asi q e rat lgayi a.dubb k marjo je prr likh k v sada e haal a asi e a asi o haneh sbb nal ik duje nal dooriya hi vddiya 22 gkoi kise ne prti pyar ni sikhanda.guru ravidass g v ehi akhde ne sbb brabr neo e ni keh gye k caste de chkran ch ohna de followers v pensab sikhs guru ravidass g nu mnde ne..har gurudware ch ohna da janamdihara bde satkar nal mnaya jandaadmin nu v reqest a k e last name da chkr ch na pave..bs kho k apne naam piche sirf singh lgayo bs sfl hoju jnm k asi sbb ik han, mein ta preeya likhyameri family di v soch uchi hai jo srf e dekhde ne k asi srf sikh hanna k koi horso hope hrek di soch eda hi hojaye.jo jo caste bare bkwas krda krn dvo.bad ch dogs bhonk k chup ape ho jande ne, saroya gotra is bilong from great valmiki, There is no caste in Sikhism, I am an Amritdhari but also a Chamar if all my people took Amrit there wouldnt be a problem.the sad reality is our ancestors had bad habits like smoking and were unclean therefore banished themselves from mainstream Sikhi. Plz. but punia is known as big caste like jat. I you want any type of help regarding Graphic Designing, Video Editing, Video Compositing, 3D Animation, Short Movies etc. I want to know whether Juhi Chawla, the film heroine, and Manjari Chawla, a native of Rajasthan, recently appointed Judge in a California Court, U.S.A., also belong to Chamar caste or any other schedule caste? You ignorant woman! I wish you knew how it felt to be a chamar then you would know you Fucking Twat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dear bro. Im a chamar, and would like me last name added on the list, its Nar. These rules and regulations are illustrated in The Laws of Manu, Mahabharta, and Ramayan and other holy hindu books. I have been married for 15 years. Saalo chamaro kahin ja ke marr jaoSaare jaato ko apni list me shamil kar liya ..Agar jaat banne ka itna hi shonk hai ,,,to apni ma ko bolo kisi jaat ke paas jaya kare,,,,,,,,,,. My Surname is SALHAN and we are not Chamar. Regarding chamar names.Its a known fact that chamars use Jat names if they can get away with it.They tend to use those Jat names of the village they are from and now here you say that Sandhu,Sahota,Chahal,Virk amongest others is also a chamar name.No its not, sorry. I urge all Chamars to take Amrit, it is the only way we will wholly be accepted not just by Jatts, but by society as a whole. You are morbid and ignorant as anybody who would believe you. I am a jatt. If your a sikh jatt get off this page ur not wanted u big head mother F*****zZ. Maybe they arent religious and it doesnt matter if they call themselves jat sikh. On this list there are many many names that belong to our BRAHMIN Caste. There was no Varn or Caste in Hindus that worked with flesh/meat/skin. Sadi jAat nu jehda v glt boluga ohnu paadh k rakh deyange.. The persons of the chamar community should be BOLD enough and should not use word All bhardwaj are not chamar we also seen bhardwaaj barhman I believe the forward castes who are only 15% of the population should only get proportionate share of power and representation in all public positions. Tq. If anybody knows plz whats app I assume by you saying trebled as a lot you mean as a result. I will not judge you on your poor use of English language, that is an indication of your level of education. Let it be clear to all those who comment a lot of non sense on this website that caste and gotras have no meaning.No one is related to any one after 6/7 generations.So fools are the people who feel proud of their gotras and castes.Sikh Gurus preached abolition of castes and condemned in strongest terms.Non of the Gurus ever made any mention of his caste or gotra. See now we need to stand up as religion and not caste and sub caste component. Ghande toh inshan k avgun hote hai. The Scheduled Caste (SC) is an officially designated group of people in India. [27][28] They are found in Uttar Pradesh,[29] and elsewhere. Also, thank you for permitting me to comment!Best10, VIRK is only Jatts surname not of any other caste u should correct it. they should come to forward now the time has been changed . teri sari ding hankene ke bad bi tuzhe koi nahi puchta.. sabse jyada IAS or Judge or Industrialist upper caste ke log hai or Brahmins bi bhaut hai.. tum out caste log ho jo kabhi hamare group ka hissa nahi they..isliye SC banaya gaya Scheduled Caste.. govt. You cannot be a Jat and also a sikh , because to call yourself a jat you are edorsing the caste system and by calling yourself as a sikh you are rejecting the caste system. Just changing your surname to a Jatt one DOES NOT make it Chamar. sidhu gill virk are not sc and also jatt? Firozpur City -9463301661(Mob. We should work for removal of castes but this site work for firming up of casteism . When we abuse others of casteism we should also do some introspection what are we promoting. The rise of chamars is resented by the very people who oppressed us. The problem with these chamaars is that they are fucking ignorant, backward, dirty and hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The difference with me I respect my jatt history but Im against putting people down we all bleed red. (before sikhism formed) kirpan and shashtra were used by hindus before sikhism was used havenot we read in history ? Kya tandon chamar ka naam hota h i am tandon kya me chamar hu. load of bull. i proud of my caste , history and background culture. R. K. Pruthi suggests this is in the hope that they might in future be considered as Julaha by other communities. They may call themselves as Ramdassia/Ravidassia sikhs.Those ravidassia chamars who accept the teachings of Guru Granth Sahib as their Holy book and also accept Guru Ravidass as their Patron Saint and also show reverence to the 10 Gurus and the other satgurus ie Bhagats mentioned in the Guru Granth Sahib can also be to be seen Ravidassia sikhs. mind chamars r most reputed honest ,sincere reliable respectful friendly lovely and sacrificng people . , , Every day he touchs the shoes and he does not mind getting poluted. You should be ashamed of your self for calling yourself a Sharma as you are not worthy of being in a human body with that evil soul of yours. Heycan u please tell me the history of birdi surname.. When I tell them I am not a hindu or Sikh , they say , you must be low caste. Therefore, it is a humble request to give maximum donation and cooperate in this social pious work by giving your contribution. Everything in this world that has flesh and blood are Chaamar. Baba Sangat Singh and all the other sikhs at the battle were butchered by the muslims forces. So we cant say theyre homeless. So you should find a girl of your liking irrespective of caste creed region or religion.You are settled in USA but your thinking and mind set is still of remote backward caste infected villager. Cant you live like civilised ppl and learn how to respect and integrate, in the end we are Sikhs, so caste is not what we believe or should follow. So many Jutt surnames and even Rajput n Brahmin surname ? Go look up the meaning of the wordI just want to know why the fuck so many Jatt last names are posted there. There is nothing wrong with respecting our ancestoral heritage. Aaj ham acchi position me aa rahe hai dheere dheere. . Kalson family is very reputed family of haryana every body knows the kalson sir name in haryana, pls add the kalson sir name is to sirname list of kalson. gotra /surname jalwan=jalwana=jalwani = jalwania=jalwaniya=jalan=jalani = jala=makwana=jalla malla=jhalwan=jhalawan = jalawan=jale jalia=jaliya FOUND IN sc=bc=genral IN north/south/east /west IN india ,pakistan ,afganitan ,lebnon,syria,soudi arabia, england, frans, usa N SO ON IN hinduS /sikhS /cristianS /muslimS THEY ARE all brothers origin same and equal . I am an independent musician from (Hoshiarpur)Punjab. Ohnu banke khadhappe sapp dhangiye.. Hi Im from Malaysia, Rojatkar. .. same as sandhu, bains. ye sochna chahiye vo chamar hai . Sikh chamar only have Singh & Kaur. 99. chamar is a turning point for the people 'beyond the four castes' who stitch together in a claim for identity . Jindgi ki asli udan abhi baki hai, You are all equal. sare Indian ik ha, Chamar ek gandi ur ashudh caste hai jo bahut gandgi se rehti hai jo suchta se nahi rehti hai chamar ko bhagwan ne upper caste ki service ke liye banaya hai chamar swachta kitna hi rakh le par vo suchta nahi rakh sakti chamar shud caste nahi hai es liye chamar ko koi nahi touch karta hai jai se kio widow subh kam nahi kar sakti usi tarah koi chamar subh kam nahi kar sakta hai, What a. When more people from backward castes, scheduled castes and scheduled tribes are getting education and fighting for their rights dont you think that general category people want to play on economics when people from lower castes are rising? add samplay, gangar, narrewatt, Saniar, banga, as these are all confirmed. Reservation was to allow them to participate in all sphere of public life and give them representation at all levels of public institutions and share power, which they had been denied for centuries untold. We come alone and will go alone. locality: charkhi dadri,bhiwani. If our people ever spoke of the injustice they suffered, they faced starvation for them and their whole families. chamar caste surnames list in up Our Sikh Gurus and Sikh Bhagats gave us respect an identity which is Sikh. Surnames are very similar amongst jatt and chamar. At the heart of hinduism is caste. Caste system is the root of all evil, especially in India , Johal and Sidhu arent Chamar they are Jatt, This site has very much wrong information, Dabi is not a chamar . Thank you , Lun meri di cast a . God does not ask about social class or birth; you must find your true home. Ugly ass dark weaklings who cant fight for shit. Destroy and attack caste system in Jaatpaatstan(India) now!!!!!!!!!! I m chamar.vil. Dont worry the drug of truth will irritate you for bit for refusing to accept the truth because you are sick and blind. https://www.sikhcastes.com/sikh-caste-names/jat-sikh-subcastes, Free fire ka probanda vansh ji please pick up the phone, https://ravidassia.wordpress.com/we-are-not-sikhs/, https://ravidassia.wordpress.com/#pd_a_2760757, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ypPI2oR0o. Surnames are castles of caste prejudice. The problem is people like you and people from castes above you who are not willing to accept how oppressive their ancestors were. If you do your research you will see the truth. What more do you expect if you deny generation after generation the right to educate themselves? please new thems to guru ravidas devlop.there is high demand my area. Please clarify my doubt. Ravidassia religion is only causing problems and segregating community. Dont hear SHRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI just listen, STUPIDS As SHRI GURUGRANTH SAHIB JIsay tha there is no caste in sikhism. i proud of my caste , history and background culture. [59], This article is about the Indian caste. I agree with you that these surnames are not exclusively chamar or jatt. Kamble. If a shudra, in pride, instructs a Brahmin in dharma then the king should put hot oil in his mouth and ears. Chavar vansh k logo ko garv hona chahiye ki unhone kisi ka sosan atyachar nhi kiya . Tum logon ki to maanasikta hi gandi hai. Yes we are different. Jaat be Kaya Jatte hote hai yeh to bhebkofo ka dusra nam hai , iss phar koe bhebkuff naaz kar sakta hai. Chamar - A glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province By H.A. Jan 1989. If u believe in it Then ur just stupid and dont know anything about this world. Dont swear makes your look stupid. Peaaacee. Bhaiyo bhot dino se mai Kuch aisa hi dhond raha tha jaha mai apne dil ki baat Bol sko thank you Bhai jis Bhai ne page banaya bhaiyo ab time aa choka hai hm sb ko ek saat milkr baba Ambedkar Saheb ka Sapna pura Kare ab baat baato se kaam nhi chalega ab sb ko ek saat milkr Chamar cast ko bhot oper le jana hai or is kaam mai aap ko sb Jatav bhaiyo ko ek saat milker ek dosre ka saat dekar yai kaam Karna hai. YOU WILL ALL BURN IN HELL AGAIN, WAIT AND SEE. I have known a chamar pretending to be a Sandhu.A small conversation and it all came out as expected.Another chamar,very educated due to the reservation system always made friends with Jats or Brahmins.Next thing you know he puts Sharma on the end of his name.He began to believe his own hype until he tried to get married in a hindu mandhir.So the same here.To repeat Johal,Sahota,Sandhu,Virk are all Jat names no question.No shared with anybody else.If Jats are secure in their own identityit does not mean they look down on anybody else.Its not our job to buoy chamars up.Its the Indian govt who trod on you.Its the hindu religion who tarred you.Leave Jats and Sikhism out of your gripe. Bhatkar. DONT YOUR PARENTS TELL YOU WHEN THEY BREED LIKE ANIMALS WHO AND WHAT SURNAMES YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO HAVE. Dera Ballan is working for RSS who dont want us all to unite, Dera Ballan is slave to their masters the RSS. pal is chamaar surname .pl add to the list. : My last name is dadra its not in this list . Im glad I was born here in Great Britain. Aryans were very clear that local tribal are not Hindus and of different ethnicity/race so local tribes must be having their own religion or traditions ? Hi kindly remove Klair surname, as Klair has extensive farming history for the last 600-700 years till present day, and all history is evidenced. Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh. 1. Holy palace of Gotra bhatoa is situated at Pandoga ,Distt UNA in HP. Waghmare. It was only in the year 1931 that Britisher Govt of india acceded to their request to exclude them from Sudra Varna. SC for them because chamar is superior at all. History will through people like you in the dustbin. Its 2013 people. AMBEDKAR WAS BORN IN MAHAR REGIMENT MAHOO, WHERE HIS FATHER RAMAJIRAO WAS A SUBEDAR. Dont you think they should be advised rather forced to change their surnames to some other neutral surnames. Ravi Kumar Prajapati. This is why Dalit history is crucial. worried for gottra/surname/family name . there are 2 reasons behind this, 1; why to tell the caste to others and 2; i can know the ideas of other people towards our caste. The root cause of this better relationship was their roles in feudal society. The struggle isnt over, there are still hurdles we must overcome. Phone More more brahmins are getting poorer and some even resorted to the jobs that chamars did. There are a lot of Majra or a Majara villages in Punjab named after agricultural workers .It was only after Baba Banda Singh Bahadur who destroyed Sirhind that land titles were given to the tillers . And that is where they borrowed the concept of race. Lode iss me to sab gulut likhi hai Soni, dhaiya , chawwla yay chamar kab t ho gay, Abe chamar khatri surname kyu dal rha is list mein. Help if u can help, I am from Punjabi Brahman family. My intention is to put forward the truth. tell me please what are the different surnames of ramdasia caste. There is no high or low in Sikhism. Reaction should be quick and Tit for Tat. Also most ancient name of India was SAPTSINDU. Also for the morons that are going to say my friend/relative who is a chamar is *insert jatt last name. Treat people how you expect to be treated. Hardly anybody says anything caste based in the uk. These words are expected only from Just Animal Type (JAT) people since you do not know about your race whether it from Hoon, Kushan, Mangol or Turk. Some of the examples from Guru Granth sahib are as below : Pride in social status is empty; pride in personal glory is useless. He was twelfth guru in the Namdhari Sikh lineage and first one to start non coorpration and boycott of British goods and services as a political tool. Your mentality and thought and ideology is backward, you people cant move forward only backward. Bruuuuah! This surname occurs mostly in Asia, where 98 percent of Chamar live; 97 percent live in South Asia and 96 percent live in Indo-South Asia. chamar caste surnames list in up. those who never got status and treated harijan and untouchable in those days were together to form non caste discrimination panth sikh panth. We dont need impostors or moonlighters please. This list is misleading as many of the castes listed are not of chamars. Religions like Budhism, Jainism and Sikhism also have inputs from Adi Dharam. You will find among us Sharmas, Banerjees, Singhs . dhang ka ipc nhi samajhta police ko at apne aap ko sahab bulate he. I think those of higher castes need to start loving their own Indian neighbour before accepting anyone else over others. But other peoples eyes they just have a huge ego or think think are better then every individual just because they are a higher caste. Bakshi: The surname Bakshi historically is communities that are wage distributors in armies. just read about him . After various reforms and formations in the year 1951 Goud Hostel was established in Hyderabad by our legends. There are still those who oppose our emancipation, those want to keep us poor and vulnerable so as to provide them with the cheap labour that they require. I dont care what chammars do, their still people in my eyes, but stop taking our last names and pretending to be us. sirf bramhan dikhte he? once u get it, stop ur child.